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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_biz2010-06-07 02:14 am
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Social bookmarking brainstorm post

So, one of the very first things that I put on my "things I want to do with Dreamwidth" list, way back in the middle of 2008 when we were making lists of "things we always wanted to do", was: redo the "memories" feature. One of my first decisions when thinking about the project was that I wanted to gut the existing system and start over again, since in the years since memories were first created there have been a lot of advancements in social bookmarking: sites such as del.icio.us have set the bar high, and there's no reason to redo the system if it's not going to offer something (or multiple somethings) that Delicious can't offer.

So, I wrote a basic spec that was chock-full of things I thought would be really awesome, and stuck it in Bugzilla, and put it on the list of "things we will get to when we get past the initial projects we want to add", and time passed. Then, a few weeks ago, [personal profile] yvi came to me and said she was looking for a complex summer project to really dig her teeth into. Since the memories-intto-bookmarks project is one I've been really looking forward to, it was the first idea I threw at her, and she thought it was awesome, too.

This is [personal profile] yvi's working version of the spec, based on the version I wrote a while back, and it is now time for everyone to weigh in on what they think! Please read this spec and give it careful consideration, then let us know your thoughts.

Turning you over to [personal profile] yvi now:



This spec is heavily based on an initial spec by [staff profile] denise, withfurther ideas and fleshing out by [personal profile] yvi, with help from [staff profile] mark and [staff profile] denise. You can view the bugtracking entry for this here.

Basic information

Title of Project: Dreamwidth bookmarking/tagging feature

MOTIVATION: To enhance user experience by providing an easy way to bookmark content and organize these bookmarks; to provide for an easy, grassroots form of cross-site content discovery; to make "best of site content" easy to find.

END GOAL: To replace the Memories function with a new form of site-wide bookmarking, similar to the functionality of del.icio.us, in which users can tag other people's posts and assets for later retrieval. To track both how many times a specific entry is saved by someone else, allowing users to find the most popular or most-talked-about entries, and how recently an entry was posted and/or first tagged, allowing users to find the freshest content for a specific tag.

BACKGROUND: The existing Memories function hasn't been updated in a very long time, and it wasn't very usable to begin with. With the advent of tagging, many users ceased using the memories function and switched to tagging, but tagging has its limitations -- one can only tag one's own posts, for instance.

This project will create a new type of tag -- the "bookmark tag". By applying a bookmark tag to an entry or asset, the user indicates that they'd like to save that asset for later perusal.

Bookmark tags should be freely creatable and editable by the user, so that the user can name and categorize their tags in any way they'd like. Individual cultures can then define a community-consensus folksonomy to allow them to find their preferred content.

Basic terminology

A "bookmark" is a specific bookmark item created by a user and this bookmark's metadata
A "bookmark tag" is a word or series of words applied to bookmarks for sorting them
A "bookmark bundle" is a collective of bookmark tags to sort these

Version 1

What follows is the required functionality for this feature in its version 1.0. This is by no means the functionality it will end up with, but the "least publishable functional unit", which will already be a lot of coding. Further plans for the feature are listed later.

* allow users to save bookmarks for on-site content: assign bookmark tags to entries and comments, both their own and from others, by using a link provided for every entry and comment or by filling out a form. These tags should be under the same constraints as usual tags (length, characters) and be input in a similar way (comma separated lists + list of existing ones to select from) to provide easy usage

* while the user may tag something with "style=light", "cutid=1" etc., the system canonicalize the link internally so we can see (for example) how many users have bookmarked a certain item, while retaining the original URL. That is to say, if a user bookmarks an entry using "style=mine", the user when clicking on their bookmark will always be returned to the page with the style=mine, unless they choose something differenty during the creation process, while internally we will also save the version without that argument

* the title of bookmark can be chosen freely by the user, and will not be restricted to post or comment title

* allow to set a certain bookmark to private/access/custom security, in which case no-one should see that the user bookmarked that item except the people in that group

* implement the ability to rename bookmarks and to rename and merge bookmark tags, just as regular tags

* when viewing a bookmark, there should be an indication as to how often an item (entry or comment) has been bookmarked by others and a link to a page where the user can see who has bookmarked this item and notes/tags the other users have given this item. To make coding less complicated, the total number of times the item has been bookmarked will be shown, only the public bookmarks will be displayed in details and a "X additional users have bookmarked this item" will be displayed at the bottom of the list to account for locked bookmarks

* allow the user to attach a note to the bookmark and decide whether the note should be private/public

* every user should have a page where others can view all their bookmarks (depending on security, of course), by tag or with sorting options (date saved, alphabetically, number of time item has
been bookmarked across the site)

* allow for bulk-editing of bookmarks -- an easy way to remove a specific tag from all bookmarks, delete the bookmarks altogether, etc.

* a page where the user can view recent public bookmarks from the users they are subscribed to and their notes for these bookmarks

Changes to the site:

Basically, this will create the following new things around the site:

* change entry pages to incorporate links for users to create bookmarks

* a bookmark management area where users can edit bookmarks, create bookmark tags

* a bookmark viewing area, where users can see and sort all of their own bookmarks and those from their subscriptions

* a detailed bookmark page with information on who had bookmarked this item, when they bookmarked it, what tags the bookmark was given and the note, as far as this information is marked as public

Future functionalities

The above list for version 1 is already quite a bit of coding and will take a while to do. There are many more ideas in my mind for that feature, though, and I won't have time to do them all, so a priority is to get version 1 set up so that others may also work on improvements and additions for the bookmarking system. Here is an unordered list of ideas that I have also noted down and I hope you like at least some of them.

* display how many times an entry/comment has been bookmarked on the entry page (might be moved to version 1)

* make it possible to bookmark content off-site (the database will be created with this in mind, so that implementing this won't be too difficult)

* make it possible to sort bookmark tags into bundles, where one bookmark tag can be in more than one bundle

* allow users to write a description for bookmark tags (to explain their use of this tag etc.)

* view recent public bookmarks on Dreamwidth, similar to latest posts

* allow global search for bookmarks according to tags

* convert existing memories to bookmarks

* show common tags on the URL detail page (aka, "other tags that are used for this post") to encourage tagging-system standardization

* see which of your entries have been publicly bookmarked by other users, be able to sort that by "last saved" and by "number of times saved"

* allow you to make entire bookmark tags locked or private ("don't show anyone that I have a bookmark tag of 'sex'")

* tresholds for tag search results ("only entries saved by 2/5/10/etc people")

* implement "network" bookmark view for paid users and finer viewing options for the viewing area ("view bookmarks from people I have given access to / mutal access with / etc.")

* display a tag cloud of the most popular tags used (by you / your circle / your network / site-wide).

* ability to set up automatic posting of bookmarks to the user's journal (once a day/once a week/etc).

* allow a user to send individual bookmarks to other people's inboxes ("links for you") with sufficient opt-out abilities (no-one, people I give access to, etc.), similar to the "share this" feature

* incorporate user feedback! :)

Questions to the user base

* how would you like to handle the security issues when it comes to bookmarking locked entries to be handled? So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark (this is not the case with memories right now)

* do you see any further security concerns in this spec so far?

* is there anything on the list of "Future functionalities" or anything that I haven't yet thought of that you think is needed for a version 1 functionality?

And of course any further ideas, suggestions or criticism are welcome. There has been no coding done yet on this.
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[personal profile] finch 2010-06-07 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark

I think this would be ideal, if it's not too much additional coding.

I see you're thinking of implementing the bookmarking of offsite links, and I wouldn't mind seeing DW as a delicious/diigo alternative in the future, but if this is a ways off, how about a way for bookmarks made here to automatically mirror to other common bookmarking sites? My diigo account automatically backs up to my delicious, frex.
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[personal profile] lap_otter 2010-06-07 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
I don't use diigo or delicious or, really, any bookmarking sites, but I can see how automatically mirroring--presumably in the same way we can auto-crosspost--would come in very useful for people that do.

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[personal profile] twincy 2010-06-07 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I am missing in this list - unless it's included under "a page where the user can view recent public bookmarks from the users they are subscribed to" - is the ability to subscribe to a user's bookmark, i.e. receive an e-mail/inbox notification whenever user x bookmarks an entry, or bookmarks an entry using tag y.
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[personal profile] cesy 2010-06-08 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
+1

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[personal profile] instantramen 2010-06-07 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark

I think this would be pretty awesome, personally.

is there anything on the list of "Future functionalities" or anything that I haven't yet thought of that you think is needed for a version 1 functionality?

Sub-bundles, please! I'd like to be able to put my bundles in broader bundles for better sorting. I'd also like to be able to use combinations of tags to search for bookmarks (that is, search my/circle's/everyone's bookmarks for entries tagged with tag1 AND tag2).
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[personal profile] stepps 2010-06-08 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
+1 for sub-bundles (oh how I wish delicious would implement this!) and using tag combos to filter bookmarks.

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[personal profile] noracharles 2010-06-07 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
I love it! It looks totally awesome, and I look forward to being able to use dreamwidth bookmarks instead of delicious.

Future functionalities:
export/import bookmarks function, so I can sync with my AO3 bookmarks.

When posting a bookmarks digest to my journal: sort by selected tags! That would make newslettering to much easier. Also the ability to format the digest would be nice. (I prefer each item to be in <p>tags</p> rather than <li> list items in an unordered list, for example.)

I think it would be fine for bookmarks of locked posts to be public.
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[personal profile] calvinahobbes 2010-06-07 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
I am so excited about this! It looks so cool!

So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark (this is not the case with memories right now)

I don't see a problem with the way things are now, to be honest, but if people are concerned about privacy I can completely understand. If the bookmarks are visible to all, however, I think it would be really nice with some sort of icon or comment like "Restricted Access", so that people will at least be forewarned that they might encounter a locked post if they click the link. Ideally, I would be able to tell if I specifically had access to that post.
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[personal profile] pne 2010-06-07 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
* allow you to make entire bookmark tags locked or private ("don't show anyone that I have a bookmark tag of 'sex'")

This confused me.

My assumptions - correct me if I'm wrong - about current usage of tags is that the visibility of the tag is the highest visibility of any entry you've tagged with it. So if you only tagged private entries with a tag, then the tag itself is private; if you tagged some private and some access-only entries, then the tag is access-only; and if you tagged even one public entry with the tag, then the tag is public.

I expected bookmark tags to be similar -- if I only save private bookmarks with a given tag, then I want that tag to be private, too. (In this case, it depends on the visibility of the bookmark, which can be separate from that of the entry, as per "allow to set a certain bookmark to private/access/custom security, in which case no-one should see that the user bookmarked that item except the people in that group" and existing memories usage.)

Then if I don't want anyone to see that I have a tag "sex", I just need to make sure to select private visibility for each bookmark that I bookmark-tag "sex".

On the other hand, if I create publicly-visible bookmarks tagged "sex", but I made the tag locked or private - then what's the point of having the bookmarks be public? How would other users be able to find them if the tag "sex" doesn't appear in my list of bookmark tags?

In other words, I would suggest tying visibility of a tag to visibility of bookmarks using that tag.

However, I'm not against making the default visibility of a tag more restrictive than the default visibility of the bookmarks using that tag; more privacy is generally good.
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[personal profile] briarwood 2010-06-07 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
On the other hand, if I create publicly-visible bookmarks tagged "sex", but I made the tag locked or private - then what's the point of having the bookmarks be public? How would other users be able to find them if the tag "sex" doesn't appear in my list of bookmark tags?

By using multiple tags for a bookmark.

Say I want to bookmarks a really hot fanfic I've just read. I could tag it with "recs", maybe, as a public tag so folks can see I liked the story enough to bookmark it, but for private use I could add a "dirtybadwrong" tag. This is hypothetical: personally, I wouldn't see a need to hide such a tag, but if I were more circumspect about my kinks, maybe I wouldn't want to display them to the world.

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[personal profile] briarwood 2010-06-07 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
Would it be feasible to build notifications into this? e.g. a PM or email note to tell me someone has bookmarked a post of mine?

If the counter function were in version one, I'd be okay with letting this go. I don't feel a need to see exactly who has bookmarked me (though I suspect I'd enjoy the option, but it feels a bit stalkerish) but I'd very much like to know it was happening.
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[personal profile] torachan 2010-06-08 09:30 am (UTC)(link)
I would love that, but considering how much resitance there was to pingbacks on LJ (so much so that the functionality is essentially useless, at least in the fandom circles I move in), I don't know how well that would go over.

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[personal profile] copracat 2010-06-07 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark (this is not the case with memories right now)

Bookmarks of locked posts on external to DW bookmark sites are not restricted so it would seem a false security to make them so on DW. Much as the idea appeals to me instantly and without reflection!
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[personal profile] downtide 2010-06-07 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
If I have an access-controlled entry, and one of the people with access to that entry bookmarks it and gives it an appropriate tag, I would definitely NOT want that bookmark tag to be visible to people who do not have access to my entry.

A lot of the access controlled posts I write are very sensitive and I would not want cetain tags associated with my posts in places where they are visible to peole outside of my Circle. Even if the post itself is not visible, people would still wonder why I write so many posts on certain sensitive topics.

If the bookmark was visible but the tag itself was invisible, I would be comfortable with that.
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[personal profile] sophie 2010-06-07 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this.

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[personal profile] justhuman 2010-06-07 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
I'm curious if the function would work for communities. Some types of communities that aggregate links to posts made on-site and off - "newsletters". The bookmarking functionality is a perfect feature for them.

Would this functionality be set up for a comm - perhaps using the same logic as tags.
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[personal profile] yvi 2010-06-08 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I have thought about it a bit and am still undecided - but even if I don't implement it at first, there's always [site community profile] dw_suggestions afterwards :)

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[personal profile] adalger 2010-06-07 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no solution for this, but what happens if Joe Stalker creates 314 different journals to go around making public bookmark tags with misleading names to associate words with negative connotations to certain people he doesn't like? Or if any sufficiently organized, motivated, and ill-willed community undergoes a painful schism and the two (or more) sides start doing this to each other?
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[personal profile] kyrielle 2010-06-08 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Maybe the 'ban' function should either block Joe Stalker from creating said bookmarks, or force them private (ie, JS can have them, but can't make other see them)?

Joe Stalker's second journal to do this, then, would be evading a ban.

You could probably make a case under existing rules for harassment also, but being able to block an account from doing this with the ban-stick would be nice.

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[personal profile] existence 2010-06-07 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it might be a false positive to hide private bookmarks on DW where they might be shown elsewhere, but it would be lovely. Very much agreed that they should show an icon to indicate that they're locked if they are locked.

I love the idea about being able to post digests by tag and format ala [personal profile] noracharles's suggestion.
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[personal profile] lapillus 2010-06-07 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that bookmark tags should function like regular tags when it comes to privacy, both because that seems to be a well thought out system, and also to avoid confusion about any differences in behavior.

As for future functionalities, I'd love an inport/export or a syncing feature with other bookmarking systems, including major browsers, delicious, etc., even if you don't expand to other sites, it would be very cool if they could grab dw realthed sites from the lists (probably harder than a full import, I know).
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[personal profile] yohjideranged 2010-06-07 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To replace the Memories function with a new form of site-wide bookmarking, similar to the functionality of del.icio.us, in which users can tag other people's posts and assets for later retrieval.

My question would be, what would happen to the existing memories function? I have one community that uses memories function to archive weekly prompt-based fic by their prompt, so I am curious as to how this would work with the bookmarks function when everything is neatly archived in memories.

It all sounds good in theory, but I have to see it in action without the layman terms to understand the workings and if it will fit well with the community.

That, and I tend to resist change. LOL
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[personal profile] holyschist 2010-06-07 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
* how would you like to handle the security issues when it comes to bookmarking locked entries to be handled? So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark (this is not the case with memories right now)

I think this would be good if for no other reason than that it's really annoying to click on someone's bookmark and get an error because it's a locked entry.
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[personal profile] kate_nepveu 2010-06-08 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yes indeed.

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[personal profile] lo_rez 2010-06-07 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
This is exciting!

So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark?

Yes, please.

allow you to make entire bookmark tags locked or private ("don't show anyone that I have a bookmark tag of 'sex'")

This would also be fairly important to me in order to use DW in all the ways I hope to. (If I've created a community for my students, for example, and am evaluating their work in order to create future lesson plans, I don't necessarily want them or anyone else to know that I'm using a "research deficiencies" tag or whatever.)

One more issue/question: is there any reason why the display of author-created tags on a specific item must be alphabetical?

I ask because there are cases where forcing that arrangement subtracts information from the display. If I want to tag a fic I'm posting on my journal, f'rex, I want the character-name tags to appear in order of their prominence in the story.

Alphabetization kicks in as a useful element (along with other forms of classification) in the aggregation of tags, but not necessarily in their presentation on individual items.

Would it be possible to include a check-box in the tag creation form for "alphabetize multiple tags"? The default could be "yes," as that's the expectation, but it would be really nice to have a "no" choice. Not sure whether that's a big deal in terms of coding/design.

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[personal profile] etcetera_cat 2010-06-07 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
o if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark

I think this would be awesome.

With respect to off-site bookmaking in the future, would there be a way to import or synchronise bookmark tags/bundles from other services (I'm thinking mainly of delicious and AO3)?

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[personal profile] ciaan 2010-06-07 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark?

Yes.
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[personal profile] john 2010-06-07 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: Q1: Yes. Precisely.

Re: This whole thing: I am not a big bookmarker, but I very much like the sound of this!
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[personal profile] arethinn 2010-06-07 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
how would you like to handle the security issues when it comes to bookmarking locked entries to be handled? So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark (this is not the case with memories right now)

Yes. I find it a bit strange that if I mem a locked entry, someone who views my memories can see that it exists, when they would not be able to do even that if they read that person's journal (and if I didn't change the auto-populated memory title, they see its original post title and I think a timestamp).

(FWIW even doing exactly what delicious does would be fine by me. I'm probably the last person on the internet who doesn't use delicious, and in any case I'm not interested in using an offsite tool to bookmark posts.)
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[personal profile] maewyn 2010-06-07 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that I don't use tags or social bookmarking already, I may have some stupid questions here:

- Am I going to be locked out of this use entirely? In other words, am I going to have to learn to use tags if I want to bookmark anything on DW?

- If someone bookmarks one of my entries, will that create a tag on my entry? Will it be visible to me as the journal owner? To anyone who sees my post? Is it going to create a new entry in my journal's tags list without my permission? Will I be notified in any way?

I hate to harsh anybody's squee, and it's not going to drive me away from the site if someone bookmarks an entry of mine. I'm just weird about stuff like this and would like to know in advance what I'd see and/or experience without participating directly.

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[personal profile] mdlbear 2010-06-08 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure whether this already exists, but I'd like to see booleans on tags: show me all entries tagged "baycon" AND "2010", for example.
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[personal profile] torachan 2010-06-08 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I would love this for entry tags as well.

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[personal profile] raelynne 2010-06-08 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark - Yes, this is definitely how this should work.

I'm a little cautious of the automatic posting of bookmarks. It could be wonderful or it could be spam.

Definite extra vote for boolean searching of tags.
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[personal profile] stepps 2010-06-08 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I use delicious.com a lot, and the vast majority of things that I bookmark are LJ and Dw content, so I've had practice? Here are some thoughts, off the top of my head.

- bundles, and sub-bundles. Oh gosh yes, sub-bundles.

- ability to add tag descriptions. I often wonder if people are confused by a tag I might use (or a bundle name for that matter), and often wonder what others' tags mean, exactly (there are some fantastically flipant taggers). Also, bundle and sub-bundle descriptions).

- ease of sorting tags into bundles etc. This is one area where del falls down, and I currently use 3 greasemonkey scripts by [personal profile] murklins to make tag bundling doable without wanting to cry. But still, for one with hundreds of tags, the option to drag and drop, and then to not lose tags already bundled (if I want to bundle them in several different groups) are things I dream of. Check out [livejournal.com profile] deliciouslymad for more detailed discussion of how we wish managing tags was easier.

- ability to subscribe to people/comm's bookmarks that aren't in my network.

- less typing. I'm a perfectionist, all my del bookmarks follow a format that's taken years (seriously) to perfect. Every time I add a bookmark though, I have to retype half if not all of the title to fit my format. I'd like for things like the journal name and/or comm name to be auto-completed in some way, so that I only have to concern myself with the actual title text, notes, and tags. This might have to be optional?

- I'd like to also see the published date along with the bookmark date. Again, optional.

- I'd like to be able to highlight a portion of text in the post and have that auto-complete as the notes/summary of the bookmark. Currently I use deliciousComplete (a hacked version for FF3, also by Murks) that allows be to highlight say a fic summary, and shortkey open the addon, which has the highlighted text in the notes area, and then I just edit the title and tags.

- I'd like the bookmark summary and personal notes to be separate from each other. I'd like for notes to be private if I want, but summaries public etc.

- I'd like the option to bookmark a post I'm creating from the post page. This is probably a big ask, but one of my big peeves about memories is remembering to go to the post and add it to my memories after the fact. If there could be a colapsable area in some future version of the new post entry page that has the bookmarking form/options etc, and it bookmarked the post as it posted, well. That would be wicked awesome. For version 1, maybe the bookmarking options built into the confirmation page after a post is successful?

- Also, having the bookmarking options as a colapsable/expandable part of others' entries. The worst part of bookmarking in the del website is that the page is separate from the one you're bookmarking. I need to be able to see the page I'm bookmarking to correctly notate and tag it. Having the bookmarker expand in the page would be great.

- Possibly turn of bookmarking for your posts, or just some of them? I don't know when anyone would post something they didn't want ANYONE to bookmark, but well, it could happen?

- Some indication of bookmarks I already have myself. Another peeve of del is browsing tag subscriptions often brings up bookmarks of others that I already have myself, and their minor little "saved" message isn't very noticable. Murks made a script at my suggestion that dims out those bookmarks I already have, so they're easily identifyable. IDK if this would really be an issue, but if people use bookmark tags at all like I do, for finding fannish content they'd like to read, seeing bookmark after bookmark that you've already read and bookmarked yourself is tedious.


Okay, I got carried away, as I do when I get into my del groove.

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[personal profile] nacbrie 2010-06-08 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
So if someone posts an access-locked entry and a user wants to bookmark that, should only people with access to that entry be able to see the bookmark

That would be great, if only to save other users reading the bookmarks from "You do not have permission ..." errors.
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[personal profile] tiferet 2010-06-08 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
This, plus I'd rather not have people I don't trust seeing what someone else thinks my entries are about and making assumptions.

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