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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_biz2010-03-23 11:18 pm

Restocking the War Chest

As discussed in this week's [site community profile] dw_news announcement, the last three months of lowered income has done a lot to deplete our "war chest" -- the amount of money we keep in reserve to cover our future operating expenses. We'd already been running in the red from month to month, and the past few months have seen some additional expenses over and above the usual.

So, we're looking to run a DW fundraiser, once the credit card payment system is up and running again, to 'repay' the reserves that we've had to tap into over these past few months. It costs us around $10,000 a month for operating costs + what we pay ourselves (and we really don't pay ourselves much -- thank God for spouses with day jobs and the willingness to let us follow our dreams), and we've had some pretty big one-time expenses since the beginning of the year, including the tax bill being due. (We had money set aside for it, but let me just say, ouch.) With credit card payments, we were taking in about $6,000 a month, and we obviously hope that we can get out of the red, month-to-month, sometime soon!

In order to repay what we've had to raid the piggy bank for since the beginning of the year, our target goal is to raise $50,000 in the month of April. In order to repay the piggy bank and be able to support the kind of expansion, marketing, and improvements we'd like to do for the rest of the year, our pie-in-the-sky fundraising goal is $100,000 -- it's a bit of a stretch, but since we know a lot of paid accounts are set to expire on the one-year anniversary of open beta (5/1), we think it's totally doable if we hustle.

We haven't decided exactly what form that fundraiser might take, though, so we thought we'd put it up for discussion. Each of the plans we've been able to think of so far have pros and cons, and we'd like to make sure we hear everyone's thoughts before we make a decision.

One possibility is to sell another batch of seed (permanent) accounts. We said that we weren't going to do it again, since permanent account revenue is good in the short term but not so good (for you or for us) in the long term, but many people have asked us if seed accounts will ever be available for sale again, since they missed the first sale or weren't yet Dreamwidth members, and we think there'd be enough interest to support another sale. (Like the last time, seed accounts would sell for $200, and we would only place a limited number, probably 200-300, on sale.) We're really hesitant about doing that, though, because we told you guys that we weren't going to do it again except in dire emergency, and this isn't dire emergency -- we don't want to go back on what we said.

Another possibility is to do a paid account special sale -- along the lines of the December holiday promotion, where buying 6 months of time for someone else would give you 2 months for your own account, but not necessarily exactly that. (Details of what exactly the sale would consist of could be totally up for discussion.) The advantage of that would be that we wouldn't have to do something we said we wouldn't do (offering seed accounts for sale again), and we'd be able to design the sale to be as attractive as possible, to give people a chance to support Dreamwidth at any financial commitment level and get a bargain in the process. (We know that $200 is a lot to ask from people!) The disadvantage is that whatever promotion we come up with might be hard to distinguish from the changes to the paid account/credit system, which might make adopting the credit system more confusing, plus it might be hard to find an incentive that would encourage people to buy paid time credits.

A third possibility is to run some sort of unofficial Dreamwidth fundraiser, where individual people would offer up goods/services/what-have-you in exchange for DW credits, once we have the credit system going. The advantage of this would be that it might get people used to using the credit system, while the disadvantage would be the amount of overhead it would require -- it would have to be something unofficial, since we don't have the resources necessary to handle disputes or conflicts, and it might wind up with things going really wrong when people can't or don't deliver on what they promised. Also, this is the kind of model that's usually used on Dreamwidth and LiveJournal for charity fundraising, and Dreamwidth isn't a charity -- it might be weird, and we don't want to devalue the important charity fundraising work that people do.

So, there are advantages and disadvantages to each option (and there's nothing saying we can't do a mix of any/all of the above, as well as things we might not have thought of yet). We want to throw the question open to the floor, though, and see if people have perspectives and ideas that we haven't thought of:

* Which of the options do you prefer?
* Do you have any other ideas that might help us reach our sales goals?
* What kind of sale would inspire you to buy DW credit?

(One thing we're not looking for, for this post at least, is feedback on what kind of features and benefits would make paid accounts more appealing to you. We know there are a lot of things we can do there -- we've got a list of them scheduled for the rest of the year -- but they take more senior-developer time and effort than we have to schedule right now. Later on in the year, we'll revisit the question of paid account features and how we can improve them!)
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[personal profile] shanaqui 2010-03-24 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
I really hope they're not planning on raising the rates. Premium is expensive enough.
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[personal profile] chris 2010-03-24 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
the kind of expansion, marketing, and improvements we'd like to do for the rest of the year

Is your problem really the need for a one-time cash injection, or the need for higher sustained incomes? Unless you have specific (server-related?) one-time purchases in mind, I fear that any sort of one-time cash injection now by getting users to advance their purchases is likely to give you short-term benefit but cause you to experience the problem again later, and thus you really need higher recurring incomes to get out of the red and get further and further into the black.

My suggestion is to be more aggressive with regard to getting people to switch to DW paid accounts from (or, at least, as well as) other journalling services, even taking point seven of your second most recent news posting in mind - and I do think this is possible rather than a contradiction in terms - then living or dying on the strength of service that you can offer. I've spoken against v-gifts in the past as blatant money-grubbing, but other people do seem to like them and (as far as I can tell) that's the way that a great many social media games and services seem to make their money, so they must be one of the ways forward - and, quite possibly, you could offer the same v-gift at a number of different price points for those who do want to overpay. Swag sounds good, though I wouldn't buy it personally.

Speaking as someone without a seed account, offering another seed account sale strikes me as pretty uncool bearing in mind what you've said, though it would strike me as funny to say now that "we're going to commit to having another seed account sale: 200 more accounts will go up for grabs for one day on our tenth anniversary, and none at all before then". At least people would have time to decide whether they want to commit, and then to save if they do.
Edited (changed "from" to "from (or, at least, as well as)", added initial quotation) 2010-03-24 11:20 (UTC)
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[personal profile] zvi 2010-03-24 11:06 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if some sort of ... bug bounty model would work? You know, if people said, I will give $X to DW upon the completion of bug Y? I know there are some bugs I would pay cash money to have someone work on, but I don't know if there's any dev slack to pick up, in the sense of people who would be developing if only something prodded them to get back in the game after they took a break. Also, if it would queer the dev culture to introduce a competitive moment. Also, it's a a weird time with it being GSOC time.

I'm mostly putting this idea out in the hopes that someone can refine it into something usable.
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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2010-03-24 11:11 am (UTC)(link)
this.

since you were so firm in the announcement that a seed account was a one time thing, it's better not to go back on that.

i think the idea of a paid account promotion is great, and maybe some other things that people who already have paid accounts could buy.
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[personal profile] cesy 2010-03-24 11:12 am (UTC)(link)
I tried this in the past - offered a paid account to a user of your choice if anyone fixed particular bugs. However, it didn't seem to produce much result, as generally the people who would be doing the coding weren't motivated by the offer. However, given this announcement, it might be worth trying again.
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[personal profile] shanaqui 2010-03-24 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
The methods everyone else have mentioned of selling stuff like t-shirts, tote bags, etc, sound pretty good. If you get people to contribute nice designs that are Dreamwidth related but also nifty in themselves, people can buy them as gifts for non-DW users (which might make those non-DW users interested in checking out DW anyway) or whatever. Stuff with Dreamsheep on it would be cute.

I don't like the idea of you doing another seed account sale. You said you wouldn't, and in the long-term it doesn't help you, because then you have a bunch of accounts, owned by your most avid supporters who are most likely to spend money on DW, that won't ever necessarily bring in new money! It doesn't seem like a good way to work it.

Personally, the kind of sale that would probably poke me into doing it would be a slight reduction in price. Not much -- even $5 would be enough to make me go "oh, it's better to do it now than later". On the other hand, I'm pretty much planning to renew all my paid accounts anyway, if I have a valid way to pay you (like my mother's credit card *snerk* -- even at twenty years old, mothers continue being useful, it seems). $5 off each purchase would just sweeten the deal and possibly persuade me to buy batches of twelve months instead of six months, or something.

The thought of "limited edition" account levels drifted through my head briefly. Like, you need to do a promotion, so you make a cheaper kind of paid account available, with the features people most want out of paid accounts (more icons, polls, whatever you think is most attractive to paid users), that'll only be available for the time of the sale. So people who are a bit too broke to buy paid or paid premium accounts can still support Dreamwidth and get some features in reward, but you only have to support that account type for a finite length of time. I don't know how workable that is, but I can picture people just wanting to pay for icons and polls, or something -- or not caring about all the shiny features, just wanting to contribute a bit. You wouldn't have to add any new features, just strip down what you've already got.

I kinda wish DW had a tip jar, so that when I'm feeling impressed with you guys (which, let's face it, happens all the time), I can just give you whatever I have spare, even if it's only $5 -- a donation, not payment for a service. Every little helps?

Could also promote the "buy a random user a paid account" feature, so people who already have seed accounts/have already bought all the paid time they could ever need can help other people out.
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[personal profile] yvi 2010-03-24 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as I remember, many (though not all) of the bugs on your list were bigger ones: effort-medium and effort-major. For something that would take me one to three days, I'd totally do it, but something like the draft posts is probably not going to get done through that.

(And yes, I can totally be bribed to Do Stuff for someone donating paid time. I am currently doing 24-hr Time Display Option and will do Multiple stickies and Popular interests in your circle after that. effort-medium is usually fine for me

Maybe this idea needs some more pondering *wonders whether anyone else would join*)
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[personal profile] cesy 2010-03-24 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, would you be willing to do the tag list once the new payment system is in place?
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[personal profile] delight 2010-03-24 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
I would absolutely be all over the swag or the paid account exchange promotion if I weren't completely broke; I'm afraid of what happens when my account runs out in a month and I need to come up with $50! But once I do hae any spare funds at all, I'm absolutely going to renew my account, and would by Dreamwidth merch.

[personal profile] nextian has it right about the tote bag. And everyone who said it has it right about a seed account sale probably being a bad idea at least for PR reasons; if you can go against one promise, what's saying you won't go against others? Not that I'm saying that, but people who already spread around anti-DW sentiment would be given ammunition.
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[personal profile] yvi 2010-03-24 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, that falls under my "nothing more than basic JS" rule. You should have seen me fighting with the JS part of the tag merge ;) I just seem to have a complete mental block when it comes to coding in JavaScript.
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[personal profile] jenny_evergreen 2010-03-24 12:04 pm (UTC)(link)
For the record, I just told a friend that I won't make the switch from LJ to Dreamwidth unless I can get a permanent account here like I have there. My personal journal is too important to me; I like the little bit of extra security I feel having a permanent account. I recognize it's not something to do often, but a base of permanent users can have a stabilizing effect long term, imo.
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[personal profile] sofiaviolet 2010-03-24 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh. I don't know how difficult it would be to make it happen, but I could see this having some really good returns.
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[personal profile] anatsuno 2010-03-24 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 also, yeah.
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[personal profile] sofiaviolet 2010-03-24 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This has potential, although I don't know how it would be organized.
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2010-03-24 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
but we implemented the "random gifts" feature precisely so people who wanted to give us money, but who didn't need paid time for themselves, could have a route to pay us.

Once you can take credit card payments again, it might be a very good plan to promote the "random gifts" feature explicitly on that basis -- that this is how people can support DW.
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[personal profile] princess 2010-03-24 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know if anyone mentioned this, but I would love to have the option to sponsor, or help sponsor, a Summer of Code student. I.E. throw in some money for them to have a paid account, etc (I don't know off the top of my head what else I could give for, but I'm sure there's stuff!). I don't know if that's at all feasible, but it's a project that DW is supporting that makes me proud to belong to DW, so...
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[personal profile] rydra_wong 2010-03-24 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd definitely favour a paid account promotion over another seed account sale -- a seed account sale so soon makes it easy for opponents of the site to use it as evidence that DW must be on the ropes financially and about to collapse.

Also, yay for swag and v-gifts, and +1 to everyone who said that the "gift a random user" feature should be promoted more.
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[personal profile] yvi 2010-03-24 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe you know, but just in case you don't, GSoC students receive $5,000 from Google.
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[personal profile] invisionary 2010-03-24 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing substantial to add here, other than I would hate to see the promise of no more seed accounts broken, unless by dire necessity - but I think it would be wise to break that promise before the dire necessity point, because if you're advertising it then, I would be afraid of going concern related issues. Best to do that about one or two steps before that point. However, we're nowhere near close to that.

And I would love to have a staff t-shirt or sweatshirt, and a tote bag, and a bumper sticker. ;)
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[personal profile] princess 2010-03-24 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't, but I was actually meaning sponsor them on the DW side. So, not that I have any idea if this is feasible, but make contributions towards the server that's being used for their dreamhacks, or, umm, I don't know. Buy the pizza they're going to eat at the big end of summer party or something. :)

Although, maybe sponsoring mentors will work better. Do they get paid?
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[personal profile] jenett 2010-03-24 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Not for us as far as I know - we're a local community group, so our target audience is pretty much all in one area.

Their help page is pretty clear about their shipping options, and when I've emailed with questions in the past, they've been prompt with answers, so this might be a good question for them if we had a list of likely locations.
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[personal profile] kyrielle 2010-03-24 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
While I'd love a seed account sale because I didn't buy one and wish I had, I agree it's the wrong answer, both for ongoing revenue and because it would in this context be going back on your word. Alas.

I like the idea of buy-paid get-premium (even if just for a sample period), getting time for yourself when you buy for others, encouraging sponsoring paid accounts for people/communities, vgifts, and swag. I probably don't need another t-shirt but that might not stop me buying one, but how about little round stickers with the DW swirl? Those would be fun and (if they had the site name on them somewhere) could also be used to promote the site to other people, offline....

If the vgifts code gets finished, one possibility would be a special one just for the promotion period.
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[personal profile] nafs 2010-03-24 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely prefer idea #2 and/or swag, for many of the reasons already posted.
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[personal profile] heartequals 2010-03-24 01:54 pm (UTC)(link)
travel mug travel mug travel mug! my two favorite things -- tea and community!
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[personal profile] delight 2010-03-24 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 more for the travel mugs. This is a brilliant idea; I don't drink coffee but most of my family does, and getting one for my dad might make him finally make a DW account. (He reads, he just hasn't got an account! He won't let me give him a code!)

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