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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_biz2011-08-13 01:36 am
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Brainstorming: what else would you like to be able to post on DW?

So, Mark's been working on the backend for our eventual photo/image hosting offering, and soon it will be time to create the frontend. (Which, as any backend programmer will tell you, is totally the not-fun part, and as any frontend programmer will tell you, is totally the fun part.) As we've been thinking about the design of how we should allow uploads and how we should handle the resulting photos, we've both started thinking that we could do some really awesome things with making images in your space function like entry-like objects, instead of the nearly-entirely-disconnected things they are in LJ's Scrapbook.

So, for instance, in addition to specifying security, you might also choose to allow commenting directly on the image, manage the comments on the image (screening, deleting, freezing, etc), send the image directly to your journal's front page (only if you wanted to, of course!) and have it appear on your readers' reading pages, tag it (and have it appear in your journal when people view that particular tag's list of uses) -- things like that. (I know people will be tempted to ask questions and offer suggestions at this point, but please, hold them -- we'll be coming back to y'all once we have a more firm idea of how we're going to handle things, preferably with things like sketches and workflows and the like for you to give specific opinions on.)

But, my point in posting here was, I got to thinking about other things that might be able to work the same way. And then I started thinking: what if we hooked the concept of advanced reading filters into this concept? Imagine how awesome it would be, for instance, if Alice could bundle together all her Twitter updates or Twitter import posts into one type of update, and Bob, who loves the essays Alice writes but thinks Twitter updates should die a firey death, could set his subscription options to "show me everything from Alice except twitter imports". Or, say Charlie posts gorgeous photos that Donna loves, but hir entries are all about a fandom or hobby Donna doesn't share and is actively repulsed by: Donna could only subscribe to Charlie's photos. Or say that Eva is an mp3 blogger who posts five awesome tracks per day and lovely analytical essays about why she chose those tracks and what they mean to her, but in between the mp3s and the essays, she also giant photos consisting of the album cover art for the tracks she's posting, and Fred (the poor guy) is still on dialup, or is usually surfing from his phone, and downloading huge images is a pain: Fred could subscribe to everything in Eva's account but the images.

I'm totally thinking out loud here -- this is the kind of idea we've been tossing back and forth for a few weeks -- but one thing became clear: once we started thinking of the possibility, we realized there were potentially all kinds of things people might want to include in their DW accounts that aren't "entries", so to speak, but are still some form of content that people might want to share. I started making my own list, and then I thought, you know, some of these "object types" will be more popular than others, and I'd like to know a rough shakedown on how popular those things will be before we even get to the design phase. (As any good programmer knows, it's best to have a full spec at the very latest before you start designing the interface, or else you'll make bad interface design choices.)

So, behind this cut is a poll. The checkboxes for each question are all the things I could think of off the top of my head that somebody might want to put in their DW account (with some help from the #dreamwidth irc channel!) There are four questions:

* Which of these things would you possibly be interested in posting in your own DW account?

* Which of these things would you absolutely not be interested in posting to your DW account?

* Which of these things would you be interested in reading from somebody on your reading page? (Assume the person posting it is at least a friendly acquaintance, and the quality of whatever thing we're talking about is high: gorgeous photos, music that exactly fits your interests, etc.)

* Which of these things would you absolutely not want to see from someone on your reading page? (This is the type-of-content you would want to automatically filter out whenever subscribing to somebody new.) Again, assume the person posting is at least a friendly acquaintance, and the quality of whatever thing is high.

Each question has a "something else, see comments" tickbox. If you tick the tickbox, please leave a comment with two pieces of information:

* The type of content you have in mind that I haven't thought of yet;

* Which of the categories the content belongs in. (There should be two answers there: whether you'd be interested in posting it, and whether you'd be interested in reading it. Please answer both!)

I'm experimenting with anonymous polling, so while everyone will be able to see your votes, nobody will be able to see who you are. In other words, each poll response will appear to come from an anonymous user, but you'll be able to see that anonymous user #1 voted for 3, 5, 8, and 9, while anonymous user #2 voted for 1, 2, 5, and 7.


This poll is anonymous.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 254

I am taking this poll:

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Yes, I am!
228 (100.0%)

Things I would be interested in easily posting to my DW account:

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Shorter entries/status updates (like Twitter)
84 (33.5%)

Photos directly from a cellphone camera
132 (52.6%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on an external site
171 (68.1%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on Dreamwidth
223 (88.8%)

Videos hosted on another site
140 (55.8%)

Videos hosted on Dreamwidth
110 (43.8%)

Audio files hosted on another site
108 (43.0%)

Audio files hosted on Dreamwidth
133 (53.0%)

Word processing document files (.doc, .docx, .rtf, etc)
82 (32.7%)

Slideshow documents (.ppt)
28 (11.2%)

Spreadsheets (.xls)
49 (19.5%)

.pdf files
104 (41.4%)

Ebook files (.epub, .mobi, etc)
89 (35.5%)

Bookmarks or collections of links
158 (62.9%)

Location checkins/records of your day (like Foursquare)
11 (4.4%)

Collections of things done (music tracks listened to, books read, movies watched, etc)
122 (48.6%)

To-do lists/checklists/shopping lists/etc
133 (53.0%)

Something else (explain in comments)
13 (5.2%)

Things I would not be interested in posting to my DW account:

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Shorter entries/status updates (like Twitter)
105 (48.6%)

Photos directly from a cellphone camera
52 (24.1%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on an external site
7 (3.2%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on Dreamwidth
5 (2.3%)

Videos hosted on another site
14 (6.5%)

Videos hosted on Dreamwidth
32 (14.8%)

Audio files hosted on another site
19 (8.8%)

Audio files hosted on Dreamwidth
28 (13.0%)

Word processing document files (.doc, .docx, .rtf, etc)
76 (35.2%)

Slideshow documents (.ppt)
107 (49.5%)

Spreadsheets (.xls)
94 (43.5%)

.pdf files
43 (19.9%)

Ebook files (.epub, .mobi, etc)
48 (22.2%)

Bookmarks or collections of links
18 (8.3%)

Location checkins/records of your day (like Foursquare)
173 (80.1%)

Collections of things done (music tracks listened to, books read, movies watched, etc)
48 (22.2%)

To-do lists/checklists/shopping lists/etc
49 (22.7%)

Something else (explain in comments)
3 (1.4%)

Things I would like to read or see from people I subscribe to on Dreamwidth:

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Longer entries (more than a few paragraphs)
220 (90.9%)

Shorter entries/status updates (like Twitter)
91 (37.6%)

Photos directly from a cellphone camera
177 (73.1%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on an external site
197 (81.4%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on Dreamwidth
213 (88.0%)

Videos hosted on another site
173 (71.5%)

Videos hosted on Dreamwidth
180 (74.4%)

Audio files hosted on another site
164 (67.8%)

Audio files hosted on Dreamwidth
174 (71.9%)

Word processing document files (.doc, .docx, .rtf, etc)
97 (40.1%)

Slideshow documents (.ppt)
59 (24.4%)

Spreadsheets (.xls)
70 (28.9%)

.pdf files
110 (45.5%)

Ebook files (.epub, .mobi, etc)
130 (53.7%)

Bookmarks or collections of links
168 (69.4%)

Location checkins/records of your day (like Foursquare)
36 (14.9%)

Collections of things done (music tracks listened to, books read, movies watched, etc)
115 (47.5%)

To-do lists/checklists/shopping lists/etc
91 (37.6%)

Something else (explain in comments)
14 (5.8%)

Things I would likely filter out if people I subscribed to posted on Dreamwidth:

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Longer entries (more than a few paragraphs)
7 (3.3%)

Shorter entries/status updates (like Twitter)
119 (56.4%)

Photos directly from a cellphone camera
16 (7.6%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on an external site
9 (4.3%)

Photos from another source (via my computer), hosted on Dreamwidth
9 (4.3%)

Videos hosted on another site
22 (10.4%)

Videos hosted on Dreamwidth
16 (7.6%)

Audio files hosted on another site
12 (5.7%)

Audio files hosted on Dreamwidth
11 (5.2%)

Word processing document files (.doc, .docx, .rtf, etc)
47 (22.3%)

Slideshow documents (.ppt)
71 (33.6%)

Spreadsheets (.xls)
62 (29.4%)

.pdf files
27 (12.8%)

Ebook files (.epub, .mobi, etc)
26 (12.3%)

Bookmarks or collections of links
15 (7.1%)

Location checkins/records of your day (like Foursquare)
164 (77.7%)

Collections of things done (music tracks listened to, books read, movies watched, etc)
74 (35.1%)

To-do lists/checklists/shopping lists/etc
90 (42.7%)

Something else (explain in comments)
7 (3.3%)

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[personal profile] sporky_rat 2011-08-13 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's really sad that PayPal ditched you back then, since it was the only possibility for me to get a paid account, though I certainly hope that there will be a way sooner or later for me to reward you for your awesomeness. :)

They also take money orders!
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[personal profile] nubriema 2011-08-13 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
While your suggestion is great, the practical aspect of it is a little bit more difficult, since I live in Germany and the fact that I gotta pay extra for currency changing doesn't help, either.
I am planning on getting the credit card thing figured out, though, once I'm finished with my apprenticeship and earn more money, given, of course, that it won't have more disadvantages for me than positive ones. :)
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[personal profile] beatrice_otter 2011-08-13 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The big thing with credit cards is that if you get one without annual fees and pay off your balance on time every month, you're fine. If you pay only the minimum or close to it, you will pay lots in interest (it's how they make money). If you pay late, they ding you with fees. But if you get a card with no annual fee (a fee for having the card, basically) and pay it off in full and on time every time you use it, then you get the benefits of having a credit card with no extra expense.

Me, I use my credit card for everything, because I do/can pay it off in full every month and I get "reward points" for using my card which I can use to do things like get cash back or buy mp3s and such. As long as you don't fall into the trap of thinking "It doesn't matter if I don't have the money now, I'll just put it on the card and pay later!" you'll probably be fine.
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[personal profile] nubriema 2011-08-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, that's pretty much the reason my family doesn't own a single credit card (we're probably pretty old-fashioned that way) - because it's so easy to spend money you don't even have. My mother has always been warning me about it since she thinks it's unnecessary anyways.
Well, she was right until now; DW payment is really the only barrier I've discovered so far concerning my cash card abilities.

But since my boyfriend is a banker, I think I'll let him do all the explaining to me eventually - at least I can count on him not to get me into trouble for money's sake. ;)
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[personal profile] kyrielle 2011-08-14 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
You may want to check, also - I do not know if you have the same concept there - but here we can get "prepaid" credit cards (credit gift cards, basically) in a set amount that are basically cash with a Visa or Mastercard number. If you could buy one of those, you could toss the entire value to Dreamwidth in one transaction for points, then spend them on what you wanted over time - and not have an ongoing credit card that you actually had to deal with the risks of.

Most of the ones over here charge a fee if you haven't used them entirely after a certain amount of time, though.
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[personal profile] nubriema 2011-08-14 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Now that sounds just perfect! I'll definitely have a look if German banking industry has such a thing; thanks a lot for the suggestion! :)
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[personal profile] yvi 2011-08-13 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I can recommend the Amazon one. I got that with no problem and can pay it off in full every month and since I buy a certain amount of stuff every year from Amazon anyway, it stays free for me.

Also, I would be happy to provide you with Dreamwidth points if you would be comfortable to make a German bank account transfer to me.
Edited 2011-08-13 17:43 (UTC)
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[personal profile] nubriema 2011-08-13 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm gonna look into it as soon as I'm finished with my apprenticeship and have a "real" job. I wouldn't want to get a credit card now only to not get a job next year and subsequently not being able to pay it anymore. - That's why I've been waiting with this.

I appreciate your offer, I really do, but I'm more comfortable with doing it by myself; not that I wouldn't trust you, but it has to do with me wanting to do everything myself. :)

Aside from that, did you just present me with one month of paid time?
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[personal profile] yvi 2011-08-14 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't me :)